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| − | '''Marty''' is the alter ego of [[Erasmus]] in the latter Dune books. '''Marty''' is a recurring figure in [[Duncan Idaho]]'s visions of and old man, [[Omnius]]'s [[Daniel]], and woman tending a garden in a very [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Gothic American Gothic] setting. While Duncan links these two figures to the enemy trying to capture the [[Ithaca]], he does not understand why they manifest themselves in such a homely fashion. The name, '''Marty''', is given to this manifestation of [[Erasmus]] by [[Omnius]]. It is a reference to the independent robot's experiment in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr ''martryism''] during the final Dune novels. |
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| + | It was stated before by [[Brian Herbert]]<ref>''"BH: Well, I'll just add one more element to that, that they both loved to work in the garden. And I guess you could say that their stories were ... were the plants and flowers that they were nurturing, but ... I think that my Dad, when he created characters, he always took elements of various people and put them into it. But, that ... that could have been part of it, but I would say that would be a subconscious element to it. That's an interesting observation, I like that."'' --- '''Brian Herbert''' in a interview to Scott Brick.</ref> that the characters ''Daniel'' and ''Marty'' created by [[Frank Herbert]] could be a metaphor for how he and Beverly Herbert had been watching the events in the Dune Universe unfold. |
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| + | By the statements made by Marty and Daniel at the end of ''[[Chapterhouse: Dune]]'' it is implied that they were possibly Independent [[Face Dancers]].<ref>''Daniel chuckled. "That would've been funny. They have such a hard time accepting that Face Dancers can be independent of them." "I don't see why. It's a natural consequence. They gave us the power to absorb the memories and experiences of other people. Gather enough of those and . . ." "It's personas we take, Marty."'' --- '''''[[Chapterhouse: Dune]]''''','''page 369'''</ref> However, in the later ''Dune'' sequels (to novel ''Chapterhouse: Dune''), written by [[Brian Herbert]] and [[Kevin J. Anderson]], Marty and Daniel are revealed to be representations of ancient [[artificial intelligence]]s [[Erasmus]] and [[Omnius]]. It is unknown whether or not Frank Herbert himself actually ever intended this, given that his final novel implies them to be advanced [[Tleilaxu]] creations. |
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Marty is an entity that appears in Duncan Idaho's visions. The character appears as a homely elderly woman alongside her companion Daniel, in an American Gothic setting.
Analysis
It was stated before by Brian Herbert[1] that the characters Daniel and Marty created by Frank Herbert could be a metaphor for how he and Beverly Herbert had been watching the events in the Dune Universe unfold.
By the statements made by Marty and Daniel at the end of Chapterhouse: Dune it is implied that they were possibly Independent Face Dancers.[2] However, in the later Dune sequels (to novel Chapterhouse: Dune), written by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson, Marty and Daniel are revealed to be representations of ancient artificial intelligences Erasmus and Omnius. It is unknown whether or not Frank Herbert himself actually ever intended this, given that his final novel implies them to be advanced Tleilaxu creations.
References
- ↑ "BH: Well, I'll just add one more element to that, that they both loved to work in the garden. And I guess you could say that their stories were ... were the plants and flowers that they were nurturing, but ... I think that my Dad, when he created characters, he always took elements of various people and put them into it. But, that ... that could have been part of it, but I would say that would be a subconscious element to it. That's an interesting observation, I like that." --- Brian Herbert in a interview to Scott Brick.
- ↑ Daniel chuckled. "That would've been funny. They have such a hard time accepting that Face Dancers can be independent of them." "I don't see why. It's a natural consequence. They gave us the power to absorb the memories and experiences of other people. Gather enough of those and . . ." "It's personas we take, Marty." --- Chapterhouse: Dune,page 369