Talk:Gom Jabbar

=2009= The Bene Gesserit test of humanity which relies on fear of the Gom Jabbar.

While Mohaim is testing Paul regarding his humanity - or "super" humanity - we are introduced to the concept of the Kwisatz Haderach and by implication the long term evolutionary concerns of human beings in the "duniverse", the golden path and the concept of Krazilec.

Lets remember that this happens in the first Chapter of Dune.

A poison needle and a test of instinct over awareness just does not carry enough weight. Why is the device of the Gom Jabbar named up exotically and extentively so early in the literary progression of the "duniverse". Why wouldn't a knife to the throat act as just as good a detterant to Paul removing his hand from the pain box?

Given its importance is there a deeper meaning behind the Gom Jabbar. How about we discuss this. --Bloosey 05:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd love to see an article on the pain box. Didn't Jessica also use on of these? I don't recall if she had a GJ held to her though. The reason a knife to the throat is less of a deterrent is because you have a higher chance of surviving that attack. A small slice isn't necessarily fatal. Keep in mind Paul was trained in combat and Gaius was old, he might have taken a scratch and disarmed her. +Yc 18:43, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Remove or obscure spoiler
In the very first section after the overview (Uses) there's a fairly big spoiler that comes out of nowhere detailing part of the climax of the first book.

Wikis shouldn't automatically assume everyone knows the entire plot; is there no way to obscure, warn of, or at least move this bit to a less prominent location?

I'm not a regular user or editor here, so I've abstained from making any adjustment myself in deferment to others' judgment.